Buggsy Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 What is the best plug-in to create 3D grass for architectural scenes in EI? How do they work and does anyone have any high quality example or their use? Some advice would be greatly appreciated. Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Houtzager Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hey Mike, I know proxy is used a good bit for this. Some work by GT images http://www.eias3d.com/forums/topic/5920-architectural-interior-and-exterior-with-v91/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggsy Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thanks Steven, I had forgotten about this post. Great images too!! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Houtzager Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hey Mike, I worked a bit on one of those projects. They are using Xfrog trees and plants. One reason is because of this tool http://xfrog.com/product/XA-09.html which allows you to reduce the polygons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Egger Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Ola, Placer Deposit is good for Grass too, Im trying to find a recent nice sample test from one of our users, it have the wind feature and Blair already have the 64 bits version.. Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
architruc Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hi tom, maybe it is not the right place to write about it but i have written 3 times to blair and still no answer. it has been three or four months since, is there a way to communicate with him that i do not know of? To stay in this topic, i used to work with placer deposit, but since it does not work any more i use Zbrush fibers. The fac are very heavy but it still renders so fast. thanks Guy Lessard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Egger Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ola Guy! I just messaged Blair, He is really busy these days..! Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
architruc Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 thank you very much for the quick answer Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Lights Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I've tried to e-mail you back several times but there's some spam filtering somewhere that's bouncing the messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggsy Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Guy, did you build all the buildings in your scene with Zbrush too or was it just the grass? I use ArchiCAD for my models but upgrade costs are expensive but Zbrush might be a way of getting around this? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
architruc Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Hi Michael, I mostly use FormZ for the standard architecture (straight walls...). I have a background in architecture so it was on of my first tool at the time. When there is something organic or curvy i use Zbrush but the models are very heavy, i use it only to give the image a less synthetic look. curtains, sheets, grounds, grass even stone walls.... Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
architruc Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 First tests with placer-deposit and eias 9.1 " Sorry, to much enthusiast, i will post details: times renders, polygons counts.... on monday " Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggsy Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Thanks for posting Guy! So is this how you used to use placer deposit? You commented, "i used to work with placer deposit, but since it does not work any more i use Zbrush fibers. The fac are very heavy but it still renders so fast". If placer deposit doesn't work what are my options Tom? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Egger Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Ola Michael, Guy just did this render with the new Placer Deposit 64 bits build, so, it's available, you need to contact northernlights3D. Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
architruc Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Fore the image posted on the 06 of december: -scale 1920 x 1080 -render time: 6 minutes 25 seconds -total triangles: 4 400 000 -grass 2 870 000 -rocks 1 000 000 terrain encage plugin with displacement 524 000 still testing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJoly Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Beautiful, really. Now, looking at the first render, I eyeballed it as a 4 feet X 6 feet patch of grass. How about testing an average frontyard, let say a patch of 30 feet by 50 feet...? As long as you are doing all the work, how about 100 feet X 100 feet field? Larger than that would not really be necessary for a still picture. Sucking up mode ON Tu travailles vraiment bien! Sucking up mode OFF Does that gets me the test images...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
architruc Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 merci pour les compliments ! Usually for larges grass fields, i put grass objects only on specifics places: foregrounds, bases of trees, sides of the buildings, fondations walls. I try to reduce the grass objects count as low as possible. of course there is a lot of photoshop too do but for standard architectural renders, this way is the faster and the cheaper. For very nices renderings, i hope the new plugin 64 bit will do the trick.... tests to come.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomo Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Been meaning to respond to this for a while so here goes. Placer looks like the tool but it is not working under Win 7 only Mac. Spoken to Blair, tried his quick fix, no avail. Since I've changed to Win I couldn't tell you how it goes speed for rendering, speed wise opposed to proxy plugin. I have been using proxy. A 1m x 1m square of grass, 3D modelled. Has 4 different materials / groups for variation. Basically I have been stamping that around with proxy plugin, works well, kills rendering time though. Recently though I have been doing the same thing but just setting the grass to render as phong, much quicker rendering. Looks pretty good from a distance. But then for close up the other thing is I set it to be a mask and then lay in Photoshop or whatever a real grass field in perspective, on top, blend via adjustments to taste. Much quicker and in some ways easier to control. Haven't done it animated though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernovavfx Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 my favorite was Fiber Forge... whatever happened to THAT? wasn't it konkeptoine product? I remember making furry objects and more with it..... I was really sad not to see a 64 bit version of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomas Egger Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Ola Scott! Fiber forge was a David Argemi product, we don't have acess to it, I hope Blair solve the Placer Deposit on Windows asap as Thomo mentioned, but a instancer system is in our to do list, but right now, we have a good amount of priorities. Thanks Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernovavfx Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Personally, I have a pretty good workflow and set of tools to do what I want to do. I mention Fiber Forge ONLY because it used to "exist" and no extra work would be involved in "theory". Thank you for the answer.... I look forward to whatever is next on your list of updates to EI... whatever it is I'm sure it will be something ill find a way to use creatively!! I might have to look into what Placer Deposit can do... in sort of "weird" abstract "graphic design" ways.... I do love messing with various tools and creating imagery those tools were not naturally intended for in the first place... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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